Before I go reread 1984 again can you tell me if the revelation of the book is more than recognizing much that the book is warning us against is already present in the US? I mean, I already realize the US (and world, for that matter) is full of corruption, propaganda, lies, etc. Is there some deeper meaning in the book?

Things that are new to you might be old hat to a lot of other people. I don't want to bother if there's nothing new...

-Dave

Dave, incredibly insightful question so I think you're ready for the truth. I'm going to post it publicly because now I've found inner strength. It pains me to reveal this to you but we are already living in a world run by the Illuminati totalitarian state but at a level you're totally oblivious to. Orwell's 1984 is already here, alive and well, but the deception is so good that you can't see it.

This guy nails it... http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

And here's the truth... http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/su...reptiles28.htm

Keep researching, and I'll be here to help you through this.

dizzib, you are violating the 2nd Commandment of the Bible with these delusions.

I see so many factual errors, but I don't have time to detail & explain.

Get help soon. Get a Bible.

Hi Shelby,

Please can you elaborate?

Thanks.

I never said "I" was sharp. I just said I come here for laughs. Keep up the good work.

Are there any Cliff's Notes for this stuff? I skimmed most of the 2nd link.

I don't know. I haven't seen any UFO's. Crop circles could have all been made by people, there is even a site devoted to the culture:

http://www.circlemakers.org/

Part of their fun is to encourage people to believe the crop circles originate from aliens.

I accept the widely existing historical evidence on the history of human technology -- I believe in the timeline that it was all invented by humans, piece by piece.

A good story, with intricate details, present day evidence, can be logical and completely consistent. But is it real?

I've never seen a UFO. I've never experienced anything extraordinary. Even David Wilcock, who I believe is telling 100% the truth (he believes what he is saying) is mostly just telling other people's stories.

David Wilcock describes putting a lie detector on a plant and then watching the reaction when he imagines doing harm to the plant. Also genetically modified fruit flies, after 5 generations, get their eyes back. These things are readily verifiable.

I could go on and on, but it's just skepticism. I honestly don't know. How can I know? All I really know for sure is what I experience myself. These UFOs, ghosts, aliens, have always left me alone. Same as everything else in my life. I'm always the one looking in the window at other people having fun in the party. I want a do-over in my life.

Dizzib, can you tell us anything you yourself have experienced? You've done a lot of reading, you are a believer, but have you experienced anything inexplicable? Otherwise it's just heresay.

I just want someone to show me something cool and other-worldly. Is that so much to ask for? Meanwhile the daily grind awaits...

-Dave

Dizzib,

Oh god let me warn you. Don't go down the path of getting in a debate with Shelby. It is as pointless as shouting at the tide. No offense, Shelby. This is a lesson I learned the hard way.

-Dave

is miasma of indifference, or the lack of use of the 3rd eye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

i.e. inability to get enlightened because you want to serve the self instead of serving others.

According to http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...21315087386589
this has nothing to do with microchipping (see around 51:40).

Investor123, that link is awesome, the guy seems to have ALL the answers, lol.

I now know that David Icke truly is a son of God.

This stuff is beautiful, it's really blowing my mind!

I liked when David Wilcock talked about astral projection, punching up through various layers of earths. I think he did this while lucid dreaming.

If something big is going to happen late 2012, at least we don't have long to wait...

-Dave

Dave,

I've handed you the truth on a plate so I'm not sure there's anything else I can do. All the info you need is in my previous posts.

From where I'm standing that cropcircle making guide looks like classic Orwellian mis-information designed to confuse and obfuscate.

Let me ask you, why did the WTC7 collapse? And have you got those $5 - $100 dollar bills in front of you, folded?

But I'm starting to wonder if the path to enlightenment is different for each and every one of us. Maybe you need to find your own path?

Cheers,
db