So what you're saying is the sequence of images on the $5, $10, $20, $50 and $100, when folded like an airplane, appear as still frames of a movie showing the collapse of the twin towers on 9/11? What is on the $100 bill? You described the $50 but not the $100.

-Dave

Exactly! And the $100 bill shows a rising plume of smoke. DO NOT TAKE ME AT MY WORD, YOU MUST SEE THIS FOR YOURSELF PHYSICALLY IN YOUR OWN REALITY.

How does it feel to have the illuminati laughing at you..?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...21315087386589 @ 47:00

Do you really want to know it?

Dizzib, I've tried to explain my stance on this.

1) 9/11 could have been what it appears on face value -- terrorists took control of airplanes and crashed them into buildings and brought the world trade centers down.
2) 9/11 could have been a conspiracy, such that the WTC buildings were "helped" to come down by explosives placed on the support girders. I simply don't buy into some magical HAARP beam which melted the bars from a tower in Alaska. That one's too far gone.
3) I don't believe anything Bush says anyway. He has zero credibility. I don't pay attention to him. With zero credibility, I don't believe what he says is true, or that the opposite of what he says is true. Do you see the point? He is not a source to be listened to at all. I don't want his statements affecting my mind. Same as I don't listen to anything Bill Gates says. They're non-entities. I don't value their input.

The truth about 9/11 isn't a major factor in my life. Nor is the truth about the Kennedy assasination. If I alone believe 9/11 was a horrible, corrupt conspiracy, what can I do? Buy a gun, go crazy and try to snipe some of the responsible people? To what purpose? That would destroy my life, it wouldn't bring down the system. Should I work, as you seem to be doing, to expose the 9/11 conspiracy? How effective is that? When Penn and Teller come on and say 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy, and insult anyone who thinks it was, how can I, a relative NOBODY, make any headway against that? No one listens to me. I'd sound like a nutcase. Find Penn and Teller's video on youtube. They say 9/11 was not a conspiracy. So now are P&T part of the conspiracy? When does it end? I love P&T. Those guys are truly geniuses. But do they know the truth of 9/11? Of course not. They just believe the official part line. So they're using their "pulpit" to share their beliefs. That's ok, everyone does that when they can.

The majority is always sane. Even if the majority is duped. People don't want to believe 9/11 was a conspiracy, so it's not. Even if it was.

We've already established, in economic terms, that there is incredible motive for Bush to want to cause 9/11 in order for an excuse to take over middle eastern oil, in order to prop up the dollar. Bush wants to control the middle east. He doesn't care about Israel, it's all about the oil. Oil for dollars. It's the only thing that can prop up the dollar. Bush sees himself in historic terms. He wants to capture the middle eastern oil for the good of the US, to keep the party going a bit longer. He thinks 50 years from now history will call him a hero because he took the hard course, committed immoral acts, in order to preserve his beloved country. He actually thinks this way. It's not even hard to accept that way of thinking. You don't need to involve The Cabal, space aliens, inverting energy fields, the world ending in 2012. It's all just human nature. Even if Cheney is the one and Bush is just a puppet, it all still fits. Their hope is while they're president, the US survived to fight another day. The next presidency is Someone Else's Problem. The new president will come in, get briefed on the state of the union...and do whatever he thinks is best.

There is a book called "The Ringworld Engineers" by Larry Niven. In that book there is a construct, a giant ribbon circling around a far star, and 30 trillion humanoids live on that ribbon. It's falling off center and will fall into the sun. A "protector" devises a solution that will delay destruction by a few years. So the protector does it. Then the heroes of the story come in and realize the problem, they realize the protector is there, and they realize there is another solution. If you do this thing, you save the ringworld but kill 5% of the population. Kill 5% to save 95%. The protector can't do it because she is programmed to protect. She can't even allow them to do it. The protector is super intelligent, BTW. Do you see how this relates? Bush is probably just thinking in terms of maintaining life as usual for all of America, for just a bit longer, just another year, just another month, just another day...and it pretty much has been business as usual throughout Bush's presidency. Life's been good so far. Nevermind we're just about ready to graze the sun and get wiped out...

In the end, where are we? Life still goes on. The kids need to get to school on time. Bills need to be paid. The career is waiting. Birds fly and chirp. Grass grows and needs to be cut. Food prices go up, gotta work a bit harder....it goes on and on. Don't destroy your life because you've had a revelation and want to expose the truth to the world. 1,000 messiahs wouldn't be enough to do it. Watch the part in David Wilcock's video where he warns of these feelings of power taking control of you.

He says once you start down the path of accepting the power you can receive from the helper aliens on a higher plane, it can get perverted by your ego. You can start falling into the trap of beliving you're the new messiah, you will save mankind, you will bring about a new age. He says people that fall into this trap then immediately start exposing themselves to the effects of "the bad guys". The ones from the other plane. Wanting to spread fear + control others brings in bad luck, effectively. I have some direct personal experience with things like this. It relates to my 1995 experience. At that time my mind got kicked into some sort of overdrive. I had total recall of every memory I'd ever had. I could make a statement, then pour off every single relevant experience in my life that supported that statement. I must have sounded like a real nutcase. I remember feeling a pressure in my forehead, sort of like the feeling you get as a child when someone else points their index finger at the bridge of your nose and puts their finger close between your eyes. Remember that feeling? The pressure felt fades away as you get older. Anyway I can't explain the whole thing I went through. But I can confirm I did feel like I had been exposed to some great new truths about...everything. And it was my duty to share these with the rest of the world. And I think at the time I saw myself as becoming some great leader, people would go to to seek answers. Then things started falling apart. When all was said and done, no permanent harm was done, so I'm pretty lucky in that respect.

Shelby didn't fare so well when he had his adventure(s). I think he said he lost an eye and I vaguely recall some damage to his legs...Shelby related his story about in 2001 he came to the realization that his programming talents were not enough to make him relevant to society. No matter how good he was, he's still basically irrelevant. We're all basically irrelevant. Watch out for any solution that puts any individual in a place of inescapable power over others. One that elevates one human over the rest. We're all in this together -- I think the goal is we all get uplifted together and then we don't need any leaders at all.

Anyway my point in telling all this isn't to attempt to control or anything. Only to share my take on the big picture. It's easy to get caught up in these things, but maybe it's best to keep perspective. As far as I know there's no way to get out of the whole system, even though the system is corrupt.

-Dave

Dizzib,

I would like to encourage you to be completely free with your insights. People want information handed to them on a silver platter. You can't just drop a few hints, encourage people to dig for themselves, and...expect anything to happen. They've all got their own projects, pet interests, their lives. If you want to make a difference, just come out and say what you mean, in detail, otherwise people won't bother.

Regarding the Illuminati laughing at me...I suppose I don't really care. Are they laughing at me or the great mass of the uninformed public? I laugh at the mass of uninformed public myself upon occasion.

I watched all the David Wilcock videos, I like the guy. I like his message. I simply can't reconcile his stated experiences with my own. I can't explain it. He says he has experienced all these amazing things, and he's extremely persuasive. But I've never, not once, experienced anything like he's described. As I say, I can't reconcile it. He's seen miracles, I haven't. I would like to see miracles. I never have. Is he lying? Does he believe what he's saying? I don't know. Overall I'm just saddened. Because if there are miracles to be seen, why is it other people are getting to see them and I'm left out? Me, always the one left out. Once again, I'm left out.

One thing in this page you posted:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/su...reptiles28.htm
Evidently it's a quote by "Purple Crow".

The part about being hated by one's own people, perpetually, it hurts him greatly. This speaks right to my heart.

I feel this hatred when I try to share my insight into Machine Intelligence with Shelby and Jason. I see the raw anger and hate pouring out of Shelby. It's so sad, so sad. It's like one has ultimate contempt for anyone else who has insights that they didn't think of first. My father is this way. My own father. I can't teach him anything. Be definition he's the father, I'm the son, he teaches me, and that's that. No insight of any depth can ever possibly come from me as a source. It's just so sad when people close down their minds this way. I see the exact same thing in Shelby, and also in Jason but to a lesser extent. They think they're at the top of the pinnacle of understanding. Shelby accepts a subordinate position to Jason. They're content -- but just so long as they're both on top! They're not anywhere near the top. Neither am I! Give up the concept of ever being on top, ever having the ultimate understanding of truth, and it makes the climb so, so, so, so much easier. But try to convince other people of that, people who are slaves to their own ego.

Oh well...

-Dave

Absolutely right. Life does go on, and my life will go on in exactly the same way as before i.e. get up, go to work, etc, etc. I currently love my day job and so have no reason to quit. And please be aware that I'm simply trying to help you, answer your questions and gain knowledge and insight into what I've experienced. I would never force my insights onto anyone, nor would I even be able to.

I'm fully aware that the question of my own sanity still remains and I hope I'm strong enough to admit if I've made a fatal mistake somewhere in my line of reasoning. That thing about HAARP is something I don't currently subscribe to so this may expose a flaw. As you can see I'm still continuing my research...

I don't understand what you mean. I'm being as free and honest with my posts as can be as I'm trying to understand this as much as you do. And I don't want to "make a difference", I only want to help.

Dave, I too sense this in Shelby but don't hold that against him. This life has battered and bruised my own heart and I've been carrying much physical pain in it for around 10 years now.

Dave, your sad assessment agrees with the one I formulated sometime ago.

dizzib, you might want to look at the recent comments at the end of the Machine Intelligence discussion in this forum.

Well, I've never had any OOB, ESP, spiritual hallucinations, etc. Many years ago in my 'find myself' phase I read that Stephen LaBerge book David mentions and was fascinated by it. I managed to go lucid on very rare occasions but then I'd wake up within a few seconds before I could get anywhere or do anything remotely interesting. You cannot imagine my frustration, because to become aware of the dream state you have to keep doing reality checks all the time during your waking hours and this takes great dedication. So that phase in my life just fizzled out due to other commitments and since then I've never had a lucid dream.

Dave, check your email.