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Thumbs down Hogwash!

Careful with placing faith and idolizing fantasies. (violation of the 2nd commandment of the Bible)

If the aliens were visiting us already, it would be a well know fact already, because 2nd Law of Thermodynamics insures that such widepread probabilities are not manageable by a centralized authority.
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No problem Rob!


A week ago I was agnostic, now I'm not so sure.

At the risk of making a fool of myself, let me explain how I've arrived at this point in my research. I believe there are 3 key points...

1. Most Importantly, the collapse of WTC7. The fact that a steel-framed building falls down just because of a fire has always bugged me, plus many other things just don't add up, like the immediate clear up operation and rapid rebuild with zero media fanfare. It's taken me 5 years of internet research and critical thinking on 911 to theorise what's going on with mass-media manipulation, illuminati, and hidden agendas.

2. Anecdotcally, five years ago I took out an interest-only mortgage to buy a grotty 2 bed ex-council property in central london. In that time I've cut back on all expenses and my life has basically ceased to exist. Why with such a well paying job in IT can I not even afford a half-decent place? Years of reading have educated me about economics, fiat currency, credit, PMs and fractional reserve banking. I'm currently selling my flat and am investing in PMs.

3. Supporting evidence... the $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 US dollar notes can be folded to form pictures of the towers collapsing in the correct sequence. Coincidence maybe, but the random chance of the order being correct is 1 in 5! = 1 in 120. Don't just take my word for it, go out, get the notes and see for yourself like I did. Just another piece of the puzzle? Does this sound rediculous, probably!


The awful realisation of what might *really* be going on happened 2 days ago and has shaken my reality to its very core, scared the shit out of me and driven me to tears. Now I'm just feeling mighty pissed off but elated to be aware of this monstrous all encompassing deception. Shelby, when you say Satan is here, I see it now. This deception is incredible beyond words and has a perverse beauty about it.

These probably appear to be the rantings of a madman to anyone who hasn't experienced this and to them I say, I don't care what you think ;-) At least for me the puzzle pieces are starting to fall into place.

So it seems my research has just begun, and tomorrow I go out and buy the bible...

Cheers!
db

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The awful realisation of what might *really* be going on happened 2 days ago and has shaken my reality to its very core, scared the shit out of me and driven me to tears. Now I'm just feeling mighty pissed off but elated to be aware of this monstrous all encompassing deception. Shelby, when you say Satan is here, I see it now. This deception is incredible beyond words and has a perverse beauty about it.
Wait a minute, I'm not following. Shelby says there are no aliens among us because the secret couldn't have been kept due to his understanding of his 2nd law of thermodynamics. How does this relate to 9/11 conspiracy theory?

I doubt if you'll find answers in the bible. You might find solace, but in general the bible's message is whatever will be, will be. I think it's better to keep asking questions and digging after the truth. Don't succumb to the defeatist attude, "Well, it's satan's work and there's no hope...Tsk. Tsk..."

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dash needs to learn that entropy is a universal law of probability in the universe that applies to everything. He will learn if reads sufficiently on the topic of entropy and the laws that govern entropy.

It is impossible for me to converse with someone who is ignorant of the subject matter.
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If the aliens were visiting us already, it would be a well know fact already, because 2nd Law of Thermodynamics insures that such widepread probabilities are not manageable by a centralized authority.
Shelby, when I first came to this forum(when some pretty sharp folks were still hanging around, but gone now), I thought you had something on the ball, but that was only for a very short time. Now....you just crack me up.

Dash, don't be too quick to judge the possibility of alien technology being the basis of many advancements today, both known and highly secret. Think about studying the 60 years plus of literature and research available before coming to a conclusion.
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Shelby, when I first came to this forum(when some pretty sharp folks were still hanging around, but gone now), I thought you had something on the ball, but that was only for a very short time. Now....you just crack me up.
Your IQ is so high that you don't realize you just logically stated that you are not "sharp folks".
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Dash, don't be too quick to judge the possibility of alien technology being the basis of many advancements today, both known and highly secret. Think about studying the 60 years plus of literature and research available before coming to a conclusion.
This is interesting. Can you elaborate? My take is the pace of technology has been perfectly believable, it doesn't require aliens to have helped us along. What literature are you referring to?

Burke's Connections program is very fascinating, how the problems of each age, plus the state of the art in technology, gave rise to the next logical step in invention. Aliens depositing some new advanced technology would have been too big a step, I'd think.

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I found this interesting interview with David Wilcock who claims to have worked with people in the disclosure project and the scientific community regarding UFO's.

Interviews with David Wilcock.

You could skip part one if you don't have time to listen but just want to get a feel for his research.
Sometimes I wonder if there are elaborate conspiracies going on, whose sole purpose is to lure me away from my chosen path in life. So now I get hooked into these UFO + channelling things (much as I was hooked on seeing big picture world economics) and the pursuit of knowledge...meanwhile I'm not moving my brain theory forward...

Then I tell myself the world doesn't revolve around me. Stop being paranoid.

I like this David Wilcock character. I can't reconcile what I see with my own eyes everyday with what he's saying. But he's believable. The intricacies of his story, if it's a lie, are compelling. If it is a lie, he's done his homework.

Show me. Demonstrate some evidence that I can't rationalize away. Although I think I'd be a bit upset at realizing everything I've believed about existence is incomplete, I suppose I'd rather know the big picture again than not...Do we really need to wait until December 21, 2012?

Interesting points he makes about everyone having to make a choice between working to self VS working to others. Working to self = spreading fear and trying to control. Working to others = spreading knowledge and love.

I believe I'm clearly in the working to others camp. I believe Jason is as well. Shelby...I don't know. There's a lot of spreading fear there, attempts to control, anger...I don't know. I don't know...

Darn. Now I've got to start studying again. Life is turning out to be quite an adventure.

-Dave
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3. Supporting evidence... the $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 US dollar notes can be folded to form pictures of the towers collapsing in the correct sequence. Coincidence maybe, but the random chance of the order being correct is 1 in 5! = 1 in 120. Don't just take my word for it, go out, get the notes and see for yourself like I did. Just another piece of the puzzle? Does this sound rediculous, probably!
You know, now that you mention it that reminds me of something. In the Illuminati Books I mentioned elsewhere, there was a part in one of the books about the pentagon near Washington DC having its shape for a specific purpose, to hold captive a chaotic, evil creature from some other dimension. Now in those Illumati books there is discussion of the symbols on US currency, the pyramid, the eye, etc. David Wilcock talked about pyramids and Illuminati and pictures on currency and the statue of liberty. You're talking about us currencies and the world trade centers. In the Illuminati books there was a bomb that went off at the pentagon, and the creature was released and went on some sort of killing rampage.

One of the 9/11 planes crashed into the pentagon.

Tell us more about what you've uncovered.

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The awful realisation of what might *really* be going on happened 2 days ago and has shaken my reality to its very core, scared the shit out of me and driven me to tears. Now I'm just feeling mighty pissed off but elated to be aware of this monstrous all encompassing deception. Shelby, when you say Satan is here, I see it now. This deception is incredible beyond words and has a perverse beauty about it.

These probably appear to be the rantings of a madman to anyone who hasn't experienced this and to them I say, I don't care what you think ;-) At least for me the puzzle pieces are starting to fall into place.

So it seems my research has just begun, and tomorrow I go out and buy the bible...
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dizzib-- Can you elaborate?
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